Who files Section 85?

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Owners incorporating a business or reorganising a holding structure, including cross-border groups moving assets into a Canadian company. The obligation is decided by facts rather than by tax owing, which is why a nil position does not remove it.

The rule on who files

Owners incorporating a business or reorganising a holding structure, including cross-border groups moving assets into a Canadian company.

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The exception that catches people

Elected amounts, not intentions, decide the result, and the election has to be filed with supporting valuations. In a cross-border structure the other country may not recognise the deferral at all, which is the question to answer before signing.

Who files Section 85?
ItemAmount
Gross amount receivedC$52,000
Withheld at source (assumed 18% of gross)C$9,360
Deductible costsC$43,160
Net amount actually earnedC$8,840
Tax on the net amount (assumed graduated result)C$2,917
Difference recoverable by filingC$6,443

Filing on a net basis recovers C$6,443 of the C$9,360 withheld. That difference is the entire reason the elective return exists, and it is lost by not filing.

Example figures throughout, selected to make the rule visible, with rates and thresholds assumed for the demonstration. Your actual filing uses figures confirmed with the issuing authority for your tax year.

Where to go from here

The full treatment — who it binds, the deadline, the penalty and the fixed fee — is on Section 85 — rollover on incorporation. Whatever you have is enough to start the conversation, including nothing but the dates.

Reviewed for accuracy for the 2025 and 2026 filing seasons by Udit Gupta, Cross-Border Tax Expert, Legal Quotient Consultants. General information, not advice for your circumstances — call our 24-hour helpline to discuss your own position.

Who has to file US tax return, in practice

Read this page for who has to file US tax return. It works through Section 85 from the beginning — whether it applies to you at all, what has to be filed if it does, and what the engagement costs, priced up front.

Cross-border situations we are engaged for

Case study 1

Sole proprietor incorporating a business with accumulated goodwill

The practice had been run in the owner's own name for years and had real goodwill by the time incorporation was considered. We valued what was being transferred, drew the transfer agreement and the election to match it, and set the consideration so the parties knew what each item produced. The engagement produced a documented transfer, an election supported by a valuation on the file, and a written record of the elected amounts and the reasoning behind each of them.

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Case study 2

Holding structure reorganised for a family with interests abroad

The family wanted shares held through a holding company and had been told the transfer would be free of tax. We looked at where each shareholder was resident and what their home jurisdiction would make of the transfer. For one branch of the family the deferral was available on both sides. For another it was not, and the structure was changed rather than the tax accepted. The engagement produced a reorganisation that each participant could file consistently in their own country.

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Case study 3

Election signed before the corporation legally existed

The transfer had been done in a hurry and the paperwork did not survive a careful reading. The transfer agreement predated the incorporation, and the election named a company that was not yet a party to anything. We rebuilt the sequence, established what had actually happened and when, and prepared corrected documents reflecting the real chronology. The engagement produced a defensible set of records in place of a set that would not have withstood a question about their dates.

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Case study 4

Goodwill valuation revisited after the assets moved into the company

An election had been filed on a goodwill figure with no supporting analysis behind it. We obtained a proper valuation, tested the elected amounts against it, and set out where the original figure could be supported and where it could not. The engagement produced a valuation report on the file, an assessment of the exposure the original approach had created, and a documented basis for the position going forward, with the adjustment mechanism in the transfer agreement put to use.

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Case study 5

Assets moved into a Canadian company ahead of an owner leaving

The owner intended to emigrate and wanted the business held corporately before the move. The order of events mattered more than the structure itself. We set out what each step would produce on its own and in sequence, prepared the transfer and the election for completion while the owner was still resident, and identified what the departure year would then require. The engagement produced a completed rollover, a dated record of the sequence, and a plan for the filings the move would bring.

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Case study 6

Rollover reviewed when a buyer's advisers began asking questions

A purchaser's due diligence turned up an incorporation rollover from several years earlier and asked to see the basis for it. We assembled the transfer agreement, the election as filed and the valuation material behind the elected amounts, identified the one item that had never been documented properly, and set out what could and could not be supported. The engagement produced a disclosure the vendor could stand behind and a straight answer to the question rather than a reassurance.

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Case study 7

Social Security Paid Twice Until a Certificate Arrived

Income tax relief does not reach a social security charge; only an agreement does, and only against a certificate from the system actually being paid into. Obtaining it is the work, and it is often retrospective.

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Case study 8

Tax Deducted When Buying From an NRI

Withholding on a sale by a non-resident is applied to the sale value rather than to the gain, so it routinely exceeds the tax due. A lower-deduction certificate obtained before completion avoids locking the difference up.

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Dual filers: U.S. citizens in Canada and Canadians with U.S. income run two parallel systems — we prepare both, in the right order, every year.

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The move year is its own project: the elections and valuations filed that year decide the next decade of both countries’ returns.

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Default withholding is 25% of gross: elective returns routinely turn over-withheld rent and pensions into refunds.

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The deduction is taken on the sale price, not the gain — which is why an NRI property sale strands cash unless the certificate is applied for before closing.

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Residency is decided on facts, not on a form — and the year you arrive or leave is the one where the largest amounts turn on the smallest details.

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A zero-tax country is only half the answer — the question that decides the bill is whether the country you came from still treats you as resident.

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Questions that come up on Section 85

I am incorporating my business, do I have to file a Section 85 election?

Only if you want the transfer to happen on a deferred basis. Moving assets into a company is a disposition at fair market value unless the election is made, so a business with goodwill, appreciated equipment or real property can produce a tax bill on the day it incorporates. The election is what defers that. It is made jointly by the person transferring the property and the corporation receiving it, and it has to be filed with supporting valuations rather than simply asserted. Where the assets carry no accrued gain there may be nothing to defer, and the transfer can be documented without it.

Who actually signs the election, me or the company?

Both. It is a joint election between the transferor and the corporation, which means the company must exist, be properly constituted and have authorised the transaction before the election can be signed. This trips up owners who incorporate and transfer on the same afternoon. The sequence matters: incorporation, then a transfer agreement recording what is being moved and what is being received in return, then an election that reflects that agreement. An election which does not match the underlying agreement is worse than none at all, because it invites the whole structure to be examined.

Can I roll assets into a Canadian company from abroad?

Assets can be transferred into a Canadian corporation from outside the country, and the Canadian deferral can be available on the transfer. The question that decides whether the exercise is worth doing is what the other country does. A deferral recognised in Canada may not be recognised where the transferor is resident or where the property is situated, and the result is tax in one country on a transaction that is deferred in the other, with no matching credit to relieve it. That question belongs at the start of the planning, before anything is signed.

Do I need a valuation before transferring assets to my corporation?

Yes, and the election is the reason. Elected amounts, not the intentions of the parties, decide the tax result, and those amounts have to sit within limits set by the cost and the value of the property being moved. Value that is asserted rather than supported is the weak point in most files we are asked to review. Goodwill is the usual difficulty, because it is the item with no purchase invoice behind it and the one most likely to be revisited later. Obtain the valuation before the election, not after a query arrives.

What happens if the elected amount turns out to be wrong?

It depends on how the transaction was documented. A transfer agreement that fixes a price with no mechanism to adjust it leaves the parties with whatever that figure produces, including consequences at the shareholder level that nobody intended. Agreements written for this purpose normally include a clause adjusting the consideration if the value is later determined to be different, and the election is drawn to work with it. This is one of the places where paperwork prepared in advance does the real work. There is very little to be done about it afterwards.

Will the US recognise a Canadian rollover into a holding company?

Not automatically, and it is the wrong assumption to start from. Each country decides for itself whether a transfer into a corporation is a taxable event under its own rules, and the two systems do not line up simply because the transaction has one set of documents. For an owner who is resident in, a citizen of, or holding property in the other country, the planning question is what each side will call the transaction and whether tax charged by one can be relieved against the other. Answer that before the structure is chosen, not after.

What is a PFIC, and why do Canadian mutual funds cause trouble for US persons?

A passive foreign investment company is a non-US company that is mostly passive by income or by assets — which describes almost every Canadian mutual fund and ETF. For a US owner the default regime taxes distributions and gains punitively with an interest charge for the years the value built up. Two elections fix it, and both need annual information the fund may not produce for you. Holding the same exposure through US-domiciled funds usually avoids the problem entirely. See PFICs and Canadian mutual funds.

Branch or subsidiary — which should we use to expand?

A branch keeps one taxpayer: results consolidate at home, losses are usable sooner, and the exposure is that the branch is a permanent establishment whose profit the host country taxes, sometimes with a branch tax on repatriation. A subsidiary is a separate taxpayer with limited liability and local rates, at the cost of withholding on dividends home and transfer pricing on everything between them. The deciding facts are usually expected losses, liability and exit plans. See branch against subsidiary.

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